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Old November 4th, 2009, 07:17 AM
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Can we stay on topic here please??
This is NOT a vaccination debate thread!
It is supposed to be a discussion on vaccination testing and targetting, not another debate about whether or not to vaccinate your kids

Sorry for my part in getting OT.
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Old November 4th, 2009, 07:36 AM
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I liked your post, Tenar, but had to 'spread the love'.

There is a lot of fear around about vaccinations, and many posts provide 'data' on the dangers or effects but don't have references, and can't provide them when asked.

I have some science background and i have trouble wading through the info, and i feel concern for those without the background who are also trying to work out what is real and what is propaganda (from both sides of the debate).
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Yes, let's stay on the topic. My question is still unanswered. Has anyone any source for trials conducted here in Australia testing Gardasil or Cervarix on girls or young women? I wasn't accurate before; Cervarix is available here (Victorian Health is offering it) as well as Gardasil.

The difference between the two is the types of HPV they claim to immunize against. Gardasil claims it works against 4 types of HPVs; while Cervarix claims it works against 2 types. Gardasil claims it works against the virus that causes genital warts; while Cervrix doesn't make this claim.

Let us also understand that when we say either one of these vaccines "prevents cervical cancer", we are incorrect. (And giving Big Pharma free advertising.) Gardasil and Cervarix do not prevent cancer. They claim to prevent the virus that can potentially lead to cancer. If either one prevented cancer, then the manufacturers would not be telling us to keep on getting Pap tests.

Have you checked out Ian's Voice Home Page

For those of you about to have a baby in a hospital, you would be wise to have a look at the photos of this baby boy who lived for 47 days. He aspirated meuconium at birth, which is not uncommon. Days later he was given the all-clear to go home and he was given the Hep B jab. He never went home. His parents left the hospital 47 days after his birth without their newborn son. The photos his mother took tell the story like no words can. Find the photo of his thigh where the needle was stuck. It is gruesome.

They tell us to trust our "mother's instinct".

You have the right to refuse the Hep B shot for your newborn. Educate yourself before you vaccinate your baby. Then make your choice, knowing that you have done so from a position of knowledge.

The law in Australia allows us the right to choose vaccination or to choose not to vaccinate. Let us work to keep that choice.

Here are 2 more websites to check out: Medical Voices Vaccine Information Center

Welcome to VISA Investigate Before You Vaccinate


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Old November 5th, 2009, 11:15 AM
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Hello again,

The author of Thinktwice.com has spent more than 20 years researching the vaccination debate. Don't dismiss his lifetime's work because you disagree with his view and certainly not until you have read his research or conducted your own. This is a forum that advocates educating yourself so that you can make a decision from a position of knowledge, because knowledge is POWER. Use the internet to gain knowledge. ThinkTwice Global Vaccine Institute: Avoid Vaccine Reactions is a good place to start.

If you need more info to study, check out this book from your local library; "The Truth About Vaccines" by Dr. Richard Halvorsen. He is a family GP in England who does vaccinate in his practice. (ISBN 9781903933923)

Happy reading!
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