Trying to Conceive after Miscarriage/Loss - October 2009

[snugglybean]

Oh, ferrals, honey, that's hard going for you. I know I say it to everyone, but, umm, naturopath? They are really good at sorting out cycles and hormonal issues where modern medicine tends to just work around it.
Also, just so you know, I stormed out of the last naturopath I went to when she a) suggested that our m/c might have been something to do with my nutrient intake and b) wanted to give me something to improve my hormone synthesis - at that stage I was still waiting for my hCG to go DOWN! Also c) everything she said was like "and we'll do this to get you ready for pregnancy, and we'll do this" and it was only 3 weeks after the m/c and we'd just been told we had to wait 6 motnhs to try again, so pregnancy was actually pretty low on my agenda, she just didn't seem to get that, that if getting pregnant were my only focus in life after losing one, that I'd just cry my eyes out.
BUT I know a lot of people who have had success.

MuzzCod- I have a gel seat, and padded knicks, and it's awesome for about the first 50km. After that, start to feel it.
AND.... still no AF! GrrrraAAAArgHHH!

Want to know anything else about my vagina?

[ric]

Good evening everyone,

New thread and a new beginning. I hope this new thread brings happiness in everyone's life and Pregnancy +ve's and lots and lots of good good news.

I was away, was seriously ill.

MurrayCod - you were 110% right, that 11th sept bleeding was my early AF and i got my AF on 9th Oct, since then i was in bed, bleeding profusely...today feeling little well, so i just came in to say Hi to everyone and i will come back again once AF is over. I hope i will be up and running in 2-3 days

Sorry Guys i am not contributing much today...just wanted to keep everyone posted about whats happening

Have a good evening all.

Ric

[murraycod]

Na it's all good SnugglyBean!X
Wat's going on with that AF of yours hey!?
I saw a Natropath in SwanHill he was great, think I may have mentioned this before, was quite expensive but I think is well worth it. I am going to make anoth appt after I find out if I'm getting this IUI done or not next week.
Because I will have a few months bf IVF, it would be great to hear what he has to say...........and get me to take, would be great if I fell PG naturally again. BF IVF!!!
But thanks for the advice Snuggly, will definately give it a try again XXX

Ric I hope AF is being kinder to you today my dear, glad that you now know whereabouts you at in your cycle hun X
Seems that you mabey regular once again afterall!

Ferrals hope the phonecall sheds more light for you hun X I'm praying that everything gets sorted for you very promptly.

Hello to everyone! Hope you are all well and healthy XXXXXX

[ferrals4]

snugglebean-I hear ya! i was on vitex a natural herb when we got pregnant with abbi and i used it for pms and pimple's it is awesome but FS told me to stop while going through ivf well my acupuncturist(spelling) told me to go back on it i know a lot of ivf women on it and there FS don't mind so i'm going back on it ASAP i believe in all the natural stuff.
I had to laugh at the vagina remark lol.

Well the FS rang and said my fertility is good i have a good egg reserve i just ovulate early which is fine in normal TTC but with pgd ivf we need lot's of egg's so that lead follicle that start's to grow to early will stop the other follicle's from catching up in size so she did not start me on the pill we will wait until next AF and check my level's again if they are still high she said it is most likely just the way my hormone's are and we can start next month and see how thing's progress or go on the pill for 3 week's and then start but she does'nt really want me to go on the pill as ivf cycle's straight off the pill are not as good so it's a waiting game again but it look's like they will just go ahead and start next cycle (finger's crossed) if it turn's out no good we are still nice and fertile to try naturally
if we have to.
I also want to say thank's for listening to me go on and on this is very stressfull and you girl's are a huge shoulder to cry on thank you.

[snugglybean]

Ferrals - I love a bit of snot on my shoulder. Cry away. (I work in childcare so totally used to it! Actually, on that, I reckon it's a bit of a sign of a good childcare centre - staff with snotty shoulders. That way you know that they are snuggling kids who are sad, although gross about the snot!)
Vitex pumps up your progesterone levels, which is why a lot of folk take it.

We have had the power out for 4 hours here. Lots of candles, very romantic

[~mummyof4~]

Hi guys,
i think i am in the wrong spot.. so please send me where i need to be lol
I Lost my little girl 2 weeks ago, i was 18 weeks pregnant. My dr has not really spoken to me about anything and i have some questions about TTC again... do you guys know where i can ask some questions??

[murraycod]

Mummyof4 youre in the right spot darling X
There is a thread TTC after Late Loss also so feel free to post in both!!
I'm so so sorry that you lost your little girl, she will forever be looking over you X
I'm sure things are still very raw for you ATM, vent here any time you need, we are all here for you.
I'm sad that you have found youre way here, but glad that you introduced yourself and joined in our beutiful family XX
We are all here with you to share the ups and downs of TTC, good luck with your journey, hope we can be of some help and support XX

[Matthew's Mum]

Hello everyone,Ferrals-hope your feeling a little bit better today...Ric-hope your up to ttc real soon...Mummy of 4-Ask away ,there are some very knowledgable women on this site.Hope your ttc journey is short.

[ferrals4]

Mathew's mum- Thanks for asking i am feeling confident i have a bee in my bonnet and i am determined to get my level's down at least a little i have started my liquid vitex (YUK!!!) and will try to eat estrogen inhibiting food and food that help's eliminate estrogen from the body.

Mummyof4- i am a mummy of 4 too i have 3 boy's and i lost my beautiful daughter 6mth's ago at 19weeks 5days one day shy of 20 weeks due to a genetic fault we now have to do PGD IVF to try to avoid it happening again Abbi was our first child for my DH and i (my boy's are to my ex) i know what you are going through i will tell you with time it doe's get easier and you do still get out of bed every day and life doe's go on but you will think about her every day and remember every little thing about her and that is ok because she is your daughter and will be with you in your heart and memories' forever.

[~mummyof4~]

Thanks for your replies ladies!
It has been a very hard 2 weeks here, but you girls all know what that is like. It is nice to not have to explain how i am feeling to some people, cause most people just really dont get it even when you do try to explain.
I havent talked to my Dr about any of this ( i am changing Dr lol) but i havent been told if it is ok for us to TTC again, if we shoulod wait, if i should be taking extra folate ect... i dont even know if we are allowed to ... do "IT" yet lol

Ferals, thanks for your nice words! i have been told by many people that it will get easier... but im not sure if i want it to get easier... i dont think i am ready for that yet.
can i ask wat PGD IVF is?? i have not really had any experience with IVF at all..

[craftymummy9]

Hi Everyone,
Been so busy the last few days didn't have time to post, Got the kids back to school now so can chill a little in the day now. Must say the time is passing quickly now for me as Ive kept busy,
Sorry to hear some of you have to wait even longer until you get your IUI or IVF its a long hard journey, I remember it well as my 2nd was IUI as I had my 1st from a previous relationship, Anyhows my DH was told he had hardly any sperm and the sperm he had was not too good mobility wise, anyway after 4 attempts with IUI with his sperm we gave up and at the time 1990 IVF was still new and out of our price range, anyhow we decided to try IUI with donor sperm and after 2 attempts I was pregnant, Couldn't beleive it and went on to have a healthy baby boy in 1991, Went back to same clinic 3 yrs later to use same donor and found out I had fallen pregnant naturally ! so no need for IUI or donor, anyhow the rest is just a miracle lets say, now have 9 kids the last 7 conceived completely naturally with a DH with suposedly hardly any sperm ! So I guess what IM trying to say is NEVER GIVE UP we don't know whats around the corner and even with all the medical advances now adays YOU CAN NEVER BE SURE !

So if your IUI or IVF gets cancelled for some reason then just anywasys YOU NEVER KNOW !

AFM Still not sure whats going on with me just brown or watery loss mostly when I wipe but no sign of O so I guess I just wait and wait ! My little OP sticks should be here soon so maybe I will use them just to see whats going on Don't want to miss the chance of O and not knowing !

Murraycod hope you get good news tomoro and Ferrals4, Matthews mum still trucking on and good luck to you and all the other ladies on the TTC journey !

Mummyof4 you are in the right place we know how you feel and we will support you as much as we can, Ask away !

[ferrals4]

Mummyof4-it took my a while i was in disbelief shock denial how could this happen to me i get pregnant easy have had 3 boy's then this happened i was devastated and wanted to curl up and die but my DH and boys kept me going i still have my moment's and days but i feel normal again (sort of) the PGD IVF is preimplantion genetic diagnosis we do normal ivf then they test our embryo's for our genetic fault (smith lemli opitz syndrome) hubby and i carry the same faulty gene we have a 1 in 4 chance of every pregnancy being effected or 75% chance of a healthy baby and 25% of an effected baby as Abbi was effected we chose to try pgd ivf but as you can see that isn't going to plan with my stupid hormone's.
DH and i were told every human carries gene fault's and many couple's are lucky and it never causes a problem and then you get the one's like me that find the love of my life and we have the same dodgy gene my DH says we are ment to be together but it kills me to know i can have kids to other people with no problem and we cant have a healthy baby together.
May i ask if the hospital asked if you wanted your baby tested to find out what happened if there was a reason it might help.
After we lost abbi it was like a normal birth i bleed for 5 week's and my milk came in so i expect that you would wait until your body heals and you are emotionly ready before ttc again if i can help answer any other question's please ask away i am here for you.

[~mummyof4~]

The kids are the only thing keeping me going at the moment too.. but we are all kind of on auto piolt.. we know things need to be done and then the next thing they are done and you dont really rmeber doing it.. iykwim

We sent Kyarna to the major hospital in Perth for a post mortem we are still waiting on the resluts but the Ob and DR are 99% sure that there was nothing wrong with Kyarna, that my placents came away from the wall and there was a blood clot behind it. So far all the test that have come back from the perinatal path have said that there was nothing geneticaly wrong with Kyarna, she was perfect.. My Dh and i have already got 3 healthy kids together as well so apparently putting that all together they are so sure that it was just the placenta.

I have already stopped bleeding and my milk has come and gone. i wasnt sure if maybe your body physicaly needs a break before you try again or if it is ok as soon as you are emotionaly ready.

I read a little bit of your struggle and i am really sorry that your hormones are playing up. this TTC/ pregnancy thing isnt as easy as most people assume is it..


Good luck to all you other lovlies TTC at the moment!

[Matthew's Mum]

Ferrals-it sounds like your been busy finding estrogen information,good for you...craftymummy-hope you dont have to wait to much longer for o...Mummy of 4-My doc told me to wait for 1st af to arrive but i think he told me that because of my emotional state.Have you got a follow-up appointment with new doc?Hope your ttc journey is a short one.

[scarypinkfairy]

ferrals4 ahh so sorry about your hormones. what are our bodies doing to us?

ric hope you're feeling better, i've been in bed with migranes. not very nice either. dh has been wonderful to me though lol

~mummyof4~ so sorry for your loss. must have been so hard for you at 18 weeks. was hard enough for me at 12 weeks. i'm still a mess really. just hoping to ttc as soon as i am better, well my body is back in working order more like. people on here are really nice, you can ask anything and people are really knowledgeable. hope you find a good doctor.

craftymummy9 get your opk kits out! hehe i'm lucky or unlucky enough to have pain when i ovulate so at least that is kind of good.

[craftymummy9]

Evening Ladies

Thanks Matthews mum I really hope I O soon or get a proper AF just don't know which it will be, got a damn cold now on top of everything so thats making me feels really sorry for myself !
Scarypinkfairy Hi there so glad you are still around, sorry you've had migraines I had a really stuffy head over the weekend and now its turned into a sore throat and runny nose, guess we still a bit run down after everything that we've been through lately,
The weather makes you feel better though especially when I here the UK is so COLD ha ha so glad I don't have another winter to go through.
Been getting a bit of a pain in my right side but at my age it could be anything !
Murraycod hope tomoro goes well let us know I still think you will be ok !
Mummyof4 the days seem never ending at first but before you know it 6wks will have gone by its amazing the first week after my MC seemed never ending but now its just a distant memory life seems to carry on and we just get back into the usual routine and thats the way it goes but its still hard seeing pregnant women walking around. Someone said on the BB forum about not to be jelous of these pregnant women as we don't know their story, and its so true !
Everyone else take care and KEEP POSITIVE !

Loubee are you still around not heard from you this week yet, hope you are coping ok as its still early days for you and I was in bits on and off for at least 6 wks,

To all of us

[ferrals4]

Mummyof4-it's terrible when a horrilbe thing like a blood clot can end a perfectly healthy pregnancy but it is somthing that is totally out of our hands i am glad you at least have some answers you will know when the time is right to ttc again.

Mathews mum- i am an expert on genetics, smith lemli opitz syndrome,high estrogen levels, pgd ivf,ovarian reserve,fsh levels you name it my head is about to explode.

scarypinkfairy-my body is always good to me that's why i was so upset it has failed me now but i will kick it back into line.

[coco1411]

Today is the official due date according to my Ovulation date, for our angel baby. I havent even gotten dressed yet, i just dont want toface the day.

I have mixed feelings about it..making it worse is I am expecting AF now. No bfp this morning and Im pretty sure I AF is coming as I am using the early tests (10mui) and I am 13dpo today, even though FF changed my O date 2 days..

Hope you all have a good day.

Eliza.