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June 3rd, 2008, 08:09 AM
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I don't know a great deal about acupuncture itself, but I have been having acupuncture treatments for about two years now to assist with fertility treatment. It has helped amazingly with stress, and I do believe it has helped with getting embryos to implant (staying implanted is another thing, though!) - from 5 transfers I've had 4 pregnancies, two very early miscarriages, one later and hopefully one VERY sticky pregnancy now...
BW
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After 30 months of TTC, 3  16/7/07, 23/10/07, 25/1/08
We finally have our long awaited baby boy! | 
June 3rd, 2008, 08:53 AM
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It would be great if someone can share a good contact for aucpuncture in Sydney area. I know one in Surry Hills (Lily Liu) but its just too hard for me to get to...almost impossible to do it everyday...but hear a lot of good things about how it can help with fertilitye esp during o time or before and after transfer...
So if anyone know some good contacts, I'd love to get into this...I plan to do my FET in August...
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Me  DH TTC #1 since Nov 2003
6 IVF stim cycles, 3 FET, 1 at 8wks5d
Having a break till 2010 2 snowbubs | 
June 3rd, 2008, 09:32 AM
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Is Rozelle/Balmain any better, BeiBei?
BW
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After 30 months of TTC, 3  16/7/07, 23/10/07, 25/1/08
We finally have our long awaited baby boy! | 
June 4th, 2008, 09:06 AM
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Yes, I am in Gladesville, so Rozelle or Balmain will be terrific, only a suburb away...let me know, thanks hun...(quietly following your every step along the way, so happy for you..)
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Me  DH TTC #1 since Nov 2003
6 IVF stim cycles, 3 FET, 1 at 8wks5d
Having a break till 2010 2 snowbubs | 
June 5th, 2008, 10:04 AM
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thanks guys for all your info on acupuncture, now i just need to book in.
thanks again
janet
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3 boys natural .dh had vasectomy. first IVF/ ICSI May 2008. 7 good embies ALL BFN now forced to take a VERY LONG break til at least Jan or Feb 2010.  this will make some good qual embies for me.
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June 5th, 2008, 10:10 AM
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BeiBei, sent you a PM yesterday... but my computer errored when I hit send. It's sitting in my sent mail folder, but I just want to be sure that it did actually send...
BW
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After 30 months of TTC, 3  16/7/07, 23/10/07, 25/1/08
We finally have our long awaited baby boy! | 
June 5th, 2008, 01:13 PM
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Yes, you did sent, I actually PMed you back, by the sound of it, your computer ate that too...
1st consultation is booked in 20th June  and I am surprised I had a bit luck to get in so early....so thank you BW...let's see what this brings me...I am kind of excited about it, I tried it a year ago, always love the feeling after acupuncture, the body is so relaxed, equally exciting as facial for me...
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Me  DH TTC #1 since Nov 2003
6 IVF stim cycles, 3 FET, 1 at 8wks5d
Having a break till 2010 2 snowbubs | 
June 14th, 2008, 02:37 PM
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| | Clear CM during IVF Cycle Hi ladies, didn't know if this is where I should ask but here goes.
I'm currently in the early stages of my first IVF Short Cycle.
Today is day 7, however day 6 of Peregon Injections.
I started the orgalutran last night, and this afternoon I have passed some clear CM and don't know if that is bad.
I tried to ring the clinic however they close at lunch time. Will try them again in the morning...
Oh yeah also had my first bloods yestersday which was at 1559, which they said was good and have another blood test and Scan on Monday.
If any of you ladies pop in did any of you experience this during your IVF cycle..thanks in advance
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Me 31  DH 39  since Feb 05  4 weeks Nov 06 Nicole S TTC Journal x2 FSH/IUI Feb-Apr 08 - BFN / 1st IVF Short Cycle June/July - BFN
2nd IVF Short Cycle - 25th September BFP!! | 
June 14th, 2008, 02:45 PM
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Nicole, it sounds like you passed some EWCM - which is just a sign of the increased estrogen levels, which means your body is doing what it's meant to. Your first E2 levels are great, everything is going fine.
BW
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After 30 months of TTC, 3  16/7/07, 23/10/07, 25/1/08
We finally have our long awaited baby boy! | 
June 15th, 2008, 04:42 PM
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Hi Nicole
I freaked out too and was asking the same questions as i had EWCM and was so scared theyd miss ovulation. But it is a response to high estrogen levels like BW said so its a good sign!!! Good luck with your cycle.
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June 16th, 2008, 06:51 PM
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| | Thanks BW & Scooby 
I asked the nurse this morning and they confirmed what you both had mentioned.
My E2 has reached 4807, more than double the one I had on Friday!!
Thanks for all your best wishes, sending them right back to you both...
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Me 31  DH 39  since Feb 05  4 weeks Nov 06 Nicole S TTC Journal x2 FSH/IUI Feb-Apr 08 - BFN / 1st IVF Short Cycle June/July - BFN
2nd IVF Short Cycle - 25th September BFP!! | 
July 24th, 2008, 01:11 PM
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| | Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy
Hi,  I am new here and new to ART. Hope this is the right place to write.
Had been trying to conceive the old fashioned way (for the first time) for twelve months with no success. We went to the GP who seemed to give us every possible test.
Waited the long wait for specialist appointment and discoed problems with thyroid. We went back this week expecting to go on Serophene however we were told thyroid was not as bad as expected. It was not a good enough reason to explain why we hadn't got pregnant yet (not sure weather to laugh or cry at this point.  ) Serophene is apparently usual used only if you don't ovulate and I did when test was done.
The upshot is I am going in for a Laparoscopy/Hysteroscopy next week.
I am a bit freaked by this for several reasons
-It is such a sudden turn around and my head is spinning
-wondering if we will ever finish the investigations and get to the getting pregnant part! (we have not been allowed to even try to get pregnant for the last 3 months while waiting for the thyroid medication to kick in due to risks of having a baby with brain damage)
-I keep thinking of the worst possible outcomes i.e. they discover I have no uterus and tell me to give up.
-whenever I think of this possibility I start crying which is not a good look at work or on the train etc
So I was just wondering (and sorry for taking so long to get to the point) is all this usual and am I insane?
Thanks to all who posted so glad to find this place.
dea
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July 24th, 2008, 06:36 PM
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DEA - if you're insane - so is everyone else on this horrid journey!!!!
it sounds pretty normal for all these tests to happen before the specialist will undertake any further TTC efforts - as it's easier to know what is causing your fertility issues...
i think i've had all of the above and then some, test wise - the waiting is a PITA, but it will be worth it eventually
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Me 29  DH 44 welcomed Emerald 29/05/09
it took 43 months to TTC#1, 3 clomid, 6 IUI, 1 stim - 1 fresh & 2 FETs  29/04/05, 03/12/05, 12/08/07, 13/05/08, 24/07/08  IUI #7 - Success!!!! | 
July 25th, 2008, 07:48 AM
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Hi there everyone,
I'm looking for any info I can find regarding the success rate of making you ovulate for FSH injections versus Clomid. Basically my story is this: I have just done 2 cycles of Clomid + IUI. The first cycle went great but no BFP, the second cycle was mental. My LH surged naturally when my E2 levels were 700 - less than half of what they were in the first cycle, and my prog was only 21 7 days post IUI despite using 2 prog pessaries a day for LP support.
We're off to the FS on Tues next week to make the case for giving FSH injections a go next. I'm keen to do them based on my mixed success with Clomid - I also had an anovulatory cycle when taking it late last year. He is not a fan of FSH injections for OI though because of the risk of multiples, he is not happy that they can cancel a cycle but that still does not stop you going home and DTD anyway and ending up pg with triplets
Basically any extra info that I can arm myself with would be greatly appreciated. I understand that there are no guarantees with anything, but if I'm more likely to ovulate on FSH injections than Clomid then I think I would rather go down that path than persist with Clomid.
TIA
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DD1 (5) and DD2 our precious IVF miracle born 11.8.09  March 07 (5 wks)  October 07 (12 wks) | 
July 25th, 2008, 06:55 PM
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Hey Briggsy?s girl,
Thanks for that I appreciate the support. I guess I just have to cross fingers for Monday that I do actually have all the necessary working bits! As luck would have it I have also come down with a cold! So I am hoping they will go ahead since no one wants to loose a month.
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July 26th, 2008, 01:40 PM
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| | High Estrogen levels
We are on our first ivf cycle and currently at (fsh) day 10. Our nurse mentioned DW estrogen levels are very high.
We asked for the figure and I think I heard she mentioned 23000. Is a figure this high possible? I am hoping I misheard and it is really 2300. If it was 23000, won't the clinic already cancel our cycle? We will most probably trigger tomorrow night and do the egg collection on tuesday. Is 10units of lucurin the morning of the trigger day normal? We thought the trigger day would be the HCG shot only.
The nurse mentioned that at the egg collection, the doctor will decide whether to freeze or something to that effect. We are not sure what this means. We are looking at about 10 follicals (1.5cm - 2.0cm) from the u/s this morning...
Otherwise DW is feeling fine, slightly bloated, sore nipples and sleepy (from the early bloods & u/s appointments from the last few days).
Sorry for all theses questions...
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July 26th, 2008, 01:50 PM
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GBD - unfortunately, levels of 23000 are possible - and can pretty much guarantee a case of ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome. given that they are not reducing or cutting your wifes puregon/gonal-f shot for tonight, i would lean toward thinking that it is 2300, which is still on the high side.
i would play it safe, and act as if your DW has OHSS - keep up fluids (at least 2-3L per day), include powerade/gatorade type drinks if possible. rest up, and be prepared that things may get a lot worse before they get better. the trigger shot includes HCG, and the response of your wife to that injection will be what guides the FS as to whether they freeze all embryo's or not
a freeze all cycle is a LOT better than a cancelled cycle - or a fresh cycle with severe OHSS, as pregnancy can result in the severity of OHSS getting much much worse.
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it took 43 months to TTC#1, 3 clomid, 6 IUI, 1 stim - 1 fresh & 2 FETs  29/04/05, 03/12/05, 12/08/07, 13/05/08, 24/07/08  IUI #7 - Success!!!! | 
July 26th, 2008, 02:19 PM
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Hey briggsy's girl,
Thanks for the advise. Will make sure DW is keeping up with those fluids.
We are just reviewing our blood reports (symbion) and wondering if the units used was different which is freaking us out as the nurse did not mention anything about ohss.
Our previous results use pmol/L while alot of other references (ie. US sites) use pg/mL.
Conversion: Estradiol pg/mL 3.671 pmol/L
If this is correct, then 23000pmol/L divided 3.671 works out to about 7200pg/mL which is still high but lower than 23000. What is the average range for Estradiol (E2?) should be looking for?
No more puregon shots for DW during this cycle (last one was early this morning).
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