Long-term TTC & Assisted Conception - Oct/Nov 2009

[~Tracy~]

Bonny- thats great news for you. I was always worried I would ovulate too early too. Grow little follies grow

Loops- FX for you, AF can be so very cruel sometimes ((hugs)) hold on to that glimmer

AFM- ET tomorrow at 9.30 WA time. Please keep your FX for me. And one of my work collegues asked my dh if I was pregnant today *sigh* I guess Im going to have to start letting a few ppl in on the secret as they are getting suspicious

[Nix76]

Hey ladies,

Motherhood - sorry for opening the can of worms on costs - I was just really worried you were paying too much. But after seeing the right website it seems right - however I would be interested in comparrisons from other clinics. Your process is very involved & I think different to most of us so comparing what we pay to yours is probably not fair. Tracy - yours is certainly up there tho for IVF/ICSI cycle. Emerald you & I are on the same kind of fees & I agree it makes you wonder how it all works when there is such difference. Maybe that is what the new safety net was trying to achieve to discourage the higher fees - I dunno!!!

Bonny - great news re your growing follies.

Loops - that could be very exciting news - just remember our cycles get thrown around a bit with all these drugs but you have been l'natural for a couple of months now havn't you?

Meg - good news is great news!! It gives us all hope and its so nice to read to keep our spirits lifted. 5 is a great number in the freezer. Hopefully you wont' need them anyway hun - you have one on board right?

OK girls - nite for now I'm off to watch the mentalist! Sleep well all :-) xx

[airline]

meg - that's great news!!!!

tracy - good luck with your transfer!!!!

loops- fingers crossed mate!!

afm - well transfer was this arvo and it went better than the first 2 ie. not nearly as much discomfort and pain. No blood either so quite happy as was doc. He was Irish, so we're going with the 'luck of the irish' this time. He also said he hopes I'm suffering with morning sickness at christmas...

Our other embies are not doing great but the old 'hopefully they'll catch up by tomorrow' and we can freeze line has been used.

Dh not well poor thing, so we came home and had a couple of hours asleep, then dinner and relaxed watching tv and now bed. More days like this to come, although working day after tomorrow. so I guess i can officially post again in the 2ww. will try and keep an eye on things in here. good luck one and all, tracy see you in 2ww thread tomorrow!

[Mrs P]

Hello hello ladies,
I find myself back in here again. Hello to the familiar names - wishes, airline, emerald star, loops - how I wish that none of us were in this thread still.

I've had a couple of months off after my last stim cycle. Went away for work and made the choice to delay the next transfer, there comes a time when you realise you can't keep putting life on hold so I took the opportunity and went over east for a week.
Feel like a TTC break has done me well mentally, but of course am still surrounded by a zillion pg announcements and babies and everything I don't have. Oh and friends who whinge about their children (don't get me started!).

Anyway this time around we're doing a HRT FET - my first one. I was pleasantly surprised on Day 1 (Friday) to be told we'll see you on Day 11 for a scan & BT. What, no BT, scans, injections etc? Wow, this is almost like a freaking holiday. Oh but wait - the fun ensues post-transfer with the dreaded P-word..... PESSARIES! Had a completely awesome conversation in the chemist when I picked them up.

Chemist: Did your Dr discuss with you about where these go? Mrs P: Well pretty much just that it's in my vagina (YES I said the word vagina in the middle of the chemist - and you know what, I didn't even CARE ha ha) Chemist: Yes that should be fine for the night time ones but the ones during the day you may want to discuss with your Dr if you can take them anally instead. Mrs P: Ok thanks I will (at this moment in time my brain was like WTF how is it possible for this TTC experience to get more unpleasant??).

Relayed the convo to DH in the car and all he could say was "Oh I thought the saying was Up the bum no babies?" - sorry if that offends but at least it made me laugh!!!

I have now written a small me-essay so will stop!!

Loops - stay away from the evil POAS - it causes nothing but pain! Ok that's a little dramatic and I'm not one to talk as so far I'm unable to avoid it. But try to!

Airline - glad your transfer went well, GL for your 2ww!

Tracy - GL with transfer!

Hi to everyone else.

[sonyalouise]

Hi ladies,
I hope everyone is well. This is an epic post, I have only been away from BB for two days and there is so much to catch up on. I apologise in advance to anyone I have missed.


Emerald- I do agree with you to a point, but the thing is I really was a b**** on Saturday. DH was trying to everything he could to help me feel better and I was just lashing out. Yes I do think they should suck it up and accept it, which he did, I just felt bad the next day.

Motherhood- I hope you get a good blood test result, you really do have a lot to deal with. I hope you have a supportive FS who is helping you through this decision making. Maybe you should talk to the counselor, I am thinking about it and I don?t have anywhere near the amount of stress that you have to deal with. I am thinking about you today. I pray that you get some good numbers!

Sounds like your feeling a bit more positive which is great, OMG I can?t believe how much it is costing you.

Airline- I hope you don?t have any more lasting affects from your EPU, I am glad that the ET went well.


Nix- I feel exactly the same way which is why I decided to do another transfer this year. I look at some of my friends who I went to school with and their kids are already 4-5 years old, some are even 10! I really didn?t want to leave it this late either. Thanks for writing about what your nurse said, it is good to remind ourselves that the chances of falling pregnant each cycle is low, which ever process you are taking.

I think PGD costs an extra 4000 dollars at MIVF, I remember reading it in the accounts pamphlet.

Good luck with this cycle.

Tracey- Enjoy your time off, look after yourself . What a great boss! Hope you ET goes well today. It is a hard decision letting people know what you are going through, but sometimes if they are aware they can be a little more sensitive.

Meg- That?s fantastic that you got 5 to freeze, it does take a little of the pressure off doesn?t it.

Loops- Sounds very promising! Maybe you should just go to your doctor and get a blood test.

Bonny- Great news about your follies! I am sure your FS wuld have said something more if he thought you were in danger of ovulating.

MrsP- Welcome back, I look forward to getting to know you. What a funny story. Can I ask what the HRT stands for?

AFM- I am still waiting for AF to show up. I am not sure what is going on. I had some spotting last Tuesday and Wednesday, they doubled my crinone and I stopped bleeding. I had my last crinone on Thursday night, blood test on Friday which was negative. Surely AF should be here if the only thing that was stopping AF was the crinone!

Can anyone tell me how long it takes to get AF after a negative BT? The nurse said if it hadn?t arrived by Thursday to call.

[Nix76]

Hey Sonya,

I think it varies person to person - but my nurse explained to me after my last natural FET - you shoudl get AF about 14 - 16 days after ovulation day. I learnt that ....you know how we all have different cycle lengths - well it only varies in days before ovulation. i.e. if you are a regular 28 day girl and I am a 34 day girl - we both will still get our AF 14 - 16 days after ovulation day. It's only the days up to O that vary. Sorry about your neg result. Not sure that I had read that but I guess I must have.

Airline glad things went well. You guys need to look after yourselves - you don't want to get sick now.

Mrs P - Nice to meet you have not seen you around before and sorry you are back (IYKWIM) :-)

[juniper76]

MrsP, I was told by the nurses at my clinic that I could take mine either way. And apparently there's one Dr at my clinic who tells his patients to take them anally. If it helps, supposedly you get less mess that way? But I can't bring myself to try it...

Hi everyone! I'm still lurking , reading and wishing you all sticky BFPs!!

Afm, looks like AF is here. And early. Looks like last month's m/c screwed up my LP. Just 11 days this time instead of my usual 14...

[Mrs P]

Hi sonyalouise - HRT is hormone replacement therapy, which means because I don't have a normal cycle or ovulate normally, I take hormones from CD2 until transfer and then beyond.... this is my first HRT FET so I'm not looking forward to the pessaries at all! I get AF about 3-4 days after a negative BT.

Nix76 - nice to meet you too!

Juniper76 - yeah the chemist mentioned less mess that way, but honestly I don't know if I could try it either. TMI but how much mess can I expect? I have to take 3 x a day so that includes at work - still need to work out a secret "container" to store them in in the work fridge, eeek... bit nervous about the whoel thing and I think I'd actually rather be injecting myself with something! Silly I know....

[tantee]

Hi All,

It's been a while since my last post (sounds like I'm at confession!) I have been trying to keep up with everyone but it is very difficult as so much is happening.

I have cancelled my next full stim cycle (supposed to start this week) as I am not really in a great place ATM (personally and workwise) so have decided to rethink my situation.

In any case, Motherhood here I come, I notice that you are in Campbelltown. Have you considered Westmead IVF? It may be a little more travel, but for a full stim cycle, I was only out of pocket approx $500 and approx $180 for a medicated FET cycle (although I paid for the estrogen tablets at about $120 for the full cycle (mine was a double dose). I know that changing clinics may present a challenge, but it would definately allow you more attempts. (It can't hurt to get an information pack from them to compare costs)
I found them to be very organised and had a really good system. They have also taken on a new senior embryologist who is from the UK and has implemented a few changes in regard to the embryo side of things.

To everyone else, I hope you are travelling OK in your journey and that you reach your dream sooner rather than later. Keep your spirits up and take care of yourselves. Thank you for your support over the last few months or so, it has been immeasurable!

Much babydust and best wishes for a positive outcome to each and every one of you ....

[Loops12]

Juniper, Tantee and Mrs P ~ welcome back, lovely to hear from you guys again and GL with your next cycles. Hope you get your BFP's ASAP.

Airline ~ Im so pleased your ET was better this time, GL in TWW, FX for a BFP coming your way!!

Bonny ~Glad your follies are looking better and all the best for EPU.

Emerald Star ~ hi, its nice to hear from you too, hope all is well.

Tracy ~ All the best for your ET tommorrow, will def have FX for you!!

Nix ~ thanks darlz. Yeh ive been natural for couple of months. That is my biggest worry that it is just the hormones etc still.

Hi to everyone else and thanks so much for your support. I still have no AF and havent POAS yet because im too scared, im dreading seeing no second line once again and so Ive been procrastinating about whether to do one or not all morning. I just don't want to feel miserable and upset for the rest of my day off if its BFN. Im sure you can all understand too - arrhh.

[Motherhood here i come!]

Afternoon all,

Just a quick one to vent my frustration at still waiting for my BT results from this morning. My stomach is doing somersaults with what the results might possibly be and where it leaves us with cycle number 2. I know that I need to wait, its just hard and this isnt even the 2ww for me lol.

Tantee, thanks for the advice. With the other posts on here re my costs the thought has crossed my mind however then I remember that SIVF has already developed the test for our little embys (when we get them) to see if they have DH's genetic condition. Will have a look into it though because you never know. Do they do PGD there by chance????

Well back to waiting for the results and the answers to my questions I armed the nurse with yesterday for when she speaks to FS today!!!!

Will update later my results. Thanks again for all your support ladies.

[Motherhood here i come!]

Hey there again.

Tantee - Just looked at the website for Westmead IVF and my FS is already working there!!!!! Lol maybe best to stay put hey and I dont think they do PGD which is the Pre Implantation Genetic Testing of the Embryos

Ciao again ladies!

[Motherhood here i come!]

Afternoon Ladies,

Well here we go. Just got the call from my nurse.

FS is happy with the results from todays BT as it shows im finally responding to the 450 Puregon YAY! Nurse told me that my estrogen level at todays BT was 1195. Previously at Sats BT it was 360 and before that it was at 143. Need to keep going with the 450 Puregon and then back in for a BT and US on Thurs morning. Let the nurse know too that I have been feeling a little achy and period pain type feeling the past couple days or so and hoped that it was a good thing. She confirmed that yeah, it is a good thing. With my estrogen levels, we now just need them to keep going up and up.

I cant describe how happy Im feeling now and I feel as if a weight has lifted off my shoulders however as I have just told DH, I cant let myself get too excited, need to calm down and see what happens and go with the flow.

Nurse also let me know that she discussed with the FS what steps we can take to get around the slow response. His response was that in possible future Stim cycles we would start with the Puregon first and then bring in the Lucrin. Obviously I dont need too much surpressing. Oh well we will see hey.

Am so happy now. Bring on Thurs and Body/uterus, you are to be on your best behaviour all the way right to the end with our BFP (Wishful thinking)

[Motherhood here i come!]

1195 for an Estrogen reading on Day 11 of Puregon Injections is good isnt it???

Let me know what you all think pretty please.

[Emerald Star]

Motherhood here i come - great news1!! i'm so happy to see things turn around for you and by your tone i can tell its brought a huge smile and lots of relief to you.....
As for the Estrogen levels, i have no idea as i never get told figures, just whether the levels are good or bad. Hopefully with the signs of your estrogen levels you will have some fabulous results with your ultrasound. You are finally on your way and i am really really happy for you!!

[~Tracy~]

Good afternoon lovely ladies

Motherhood- I am so pleased to read your posts, sounds like everything is going great. As for the eastrogen levels Im not 100% sure, but mine were all around the 1100 mark

Mrs P- hello *waves* sorry your having to be back here & of course I mean that in a nice way, I hope this next cycle is kind to you ((hugs))

Tantee- good for you, for realising what is best for you ((hugs))

Loops- ((hugs)) to you my friend, it aint over til the fat lady sings and I hope she has lost her voice for the next 9 months at least

airline- would you believe I was laying in the clinic thinking about you today lol, so glad your ET was not so bad as the previous two and I hope this is it for you

AFM- ET today, one 3 day 7cells embie and they are going to freeze the other which was a 6 cell (well they said they were leaving it till lunchtime to see what it did, I havnt rung)
Been trying to rest all afternoon, Geez I truly hope this is the one, stick little embie stick

[Emerald Star]

Mrsp - Welcome back, and like the other girls said "sorry it had to be under these circumstances". Hopefully this will work out with great results this time.

Tracy - GL in your 2WW!! great to hear your doing well. FX

[airline]

sonya - my first cycle, AF took her bleedin' sweet time, so they put me on the pill to induce it. I asked for that the second cycle to ensure min. time between cycles. how you travelling?

juniper - glad to see you lurking m'dear.

tantee - I'm sorry you canx your cycle..but naturally you'll have given it much thought, and I hope you're at peace with it. good to see you YKWIM

loops - oh I"m wondering...how you going????

motherhood - those no.s are great in my minimum experience. my no.s were low and I remember they suddenly improved from one BT to another.

tracy - oh I'm flattered m'dear!? glad it went well...7cells at 3 days is great!


afm - I'm doing ok, DH still got 'man cold' so trying to protect myself from that. sadly none of our other embies made it to freeze. so it's all down to the splodge inside of me