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Old October 28th, 2009, 06:48 AM
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Tigga-not sure where i read about wheatgrass can increase fsh i surfed so many sites but i did read on a few fertility forums of women who went on wheatgrass to lower there fsh but it went up higher i also read that wheatgrass can increase estrogen thus masking fsh by pushing it down i wont go on wheatgrass as i already have high estrogen and my fsh is supose to be ok but i have read heaps on a lot of sites that vitex mildly supresses fsh levels and balances out estrogen and progesterone and seeing i fell pregnant with abbi on it not long after i started taking it i will keep on it.
You are the first person i have heard of having high fsh on it but it might not have been because of it ( well i hope not ) all i can do is wait and see what my levels are i also go to acupuncture weekly it destresses me.
I hope all goe's well tomorrow and they don't cancel your cycle what do you mean by flat estrogen level what is it supose to be on day 10 and Dr google can be good for info but can also freak you out when you read the stuff we don't want to hear.
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Old November 1st, 2009, 11:13 AM
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Hi Ladies.
A quick update on my progress. Had EPU on Friday where I was told there were 5 eggs.
Yesterday lab called to let us know - it was in actual fact 4 eggs (go figure!): 2x fertilised normally, 1x abnormal egg and 1x abnormal fert. I'm just waiting for todays update on the progress of the 2 that fertilised. All going well I will have both transferred tomorrow.

ferrals - It's very likely that Vitex had nothing to do with high FSH. It did work in regulating my menstrual cycle and I did get a natural BFP, after I'd started it the first time around.

Hope everyone else is well.
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Old November 1st, 2009, 12:35 PM
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Tigga-good luck for your TF i will have my fingers crossed for you and i will be waiting to see your post with some good news.

Just one other question regarding high FSH what does SIVF consider normal levels i have read a few things some say under 10 is good and others say under 12 is normal then some sights say under 9 is what you should have i am panicing that if my E2 goes down that my FSH will go up i am not looking forward to this next BT.
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Well done Tigga, BOL for your TF tomorrow! Sticky vibes coming your way.
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Hi Ferrals, I was talking to my FN this week (from SIVF) regarding my FSH which was 19 last cycle. She said under 10 was a go. Having said that, I've been doing a bit of research on the subject (since reading what Tigga had to say below) and personally, I would be pushing to go ahead if mine 12 or 13 next time around.

Tigga, Good Luck with the transfer, I hope all goes well.

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Tigger good luck today!

Daisy-thanks for the info so i supose my Day 2 level of 9.6 is cutting it close my Day 3 level was better at 8 but my estrogen was pushing it down so i wonder what it would be with normal estrogen levels.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 10:33 AM
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Ferrals - I'm not with SIVF sorry - but my clinic's cut off is 12 (though they can be pushed).

Dutchie - Thanks and I hope you are well. Where are you at?

Daisie - I had a cycle cancelled with a FSH of 21 & est 160 and then next one was 7.6 and est 142 (my first cycle). Second cycle FSH was 10 and est 287 - got a BFP but m/c at 7 weeks. Sometimes, I wish I never ask for the numbers and just go with what the clinic tells me. You can find yourself obsessing too much about them for nothing. Your age is in your favour - even if you do have higher FSH. Even so, I hope it's lower for you next time.

BulieJ, Anyos - How you ladies going? Hope you're ok.

AFM, I have 2 embies back on board, one a 8-9 cell and the other 'lagging'. BT is 13th November - Friday 13th...a lucky omen!!
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Old November 4th, 2009, 06:41 AM
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Good luck Tigga for the TWW i hope this is it for you fingers crossed.
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Best of luck Tigga - PUPO!

I have read or been told that DHEA leaves your system pretty quickly - thus I think that breaking up the 3 months isn't the greatest thing to do - but I've done it too.

Does anyone know much about estrogen levels? I have a feeling - based on my fancy-schmancy fertility monitor from the US that measures both estrogen and FSH (clear blue easy in case you want to google) that I am starting my cycles with unusually high estrogen levels. This would be a recent development for me and I'm wondering what this means and whether it matters.

Hi to everyone else - hope you are all going well.
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buliej-that is my problem high estrogen to early in my cycle and from what my FS and the PGD nurse said it means either my cycle is out of wack or that i have a lead follicle that has started to grow to big to early which she said if fine for my fertility it just means i ovulate early (which is about right i usually ovulate on day 11 or 12) but for ivf it is no good because having a lead follicle means when they start the fsh injections that greedy follicle will absorb all the hormones and they smaller one wont have time to catch up and with PGD i need lots of eggs to test my FS said we will just wait and see how it goe's this month but i went back on vitex which helps balance out hormones lowering fsh and estrogen and increasing progesterone and i switched to organic meat chicken and dairy and also tried to buy paraben free products as paraben is in almost all beauty products cleaning products and plastics and is a synthetic estrogen which we absorb and it binds to our natural estrogen making it higher and is also a risk for cancer i thought i would try anything to help lower it and my naturopath and acupunturist also recomended the changes i have made because many women have estrogen dominance i was told estrogen should be under 100 my FS said they would be happy for it to be between 100 and 150 mine was 360 so i hope it has gone down a bit anyway i hope i havnt raved on to much.
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