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			<title>IVF Subforum</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:14:38 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi first post

Is there a sub forum that deals with IVF only

Looking for a group for Melbourne IVFers 

Started first cycle this month wanting to chat to same</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi first post<br />
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Is there a sub forum that deals with IVF only<br />
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Looking for a group for Melbourne IVFers <br />
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Started first cycle this month wanting to chat to same</div>

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			<title>Cardiolipin Antibodies</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:11:25 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hey everyone,

After trying to fall pregnant for what feels like forever (im sure that is how we all feel about it), I have just been diagnosed with moderate cardiolipin antibodies.  I was tested twice about 6 weeks apart and both blood tests came back with the same result.  I will begin daily clexane injections the day i have my next embryo transfer and if i do fall pregnant will continue on the injections throughout the pregnancy.

Just wondering if there is anyone out there who has the same condition can share there experience with me and also apart from the pregnancy thing whether the condition has had any other impact on their health or life in general.

Thanks
Claire</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hey everyone,<br />
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After trying to fall pregnant for what feels like forever (im sure that is how we all feel about it), I have just been diagnosed with moderate cardiolipin antibodies.  I was tested twice about 6 weeks apart and both blood tests came back with the same result.  I will begin daily clexane injections the day i have my next embryo transfer and if i do fall pregnant will continue on the injections throughout the pregnancy.<br />
<br />
Just wondering if there is anyone out there who has the same condition can share there experience with me and also apart from the pregnancy thing whether the condition has had any other impact on their health or life in general.<br />
<br />
Thanks<br />
Claire</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Long-term TTC & Assisted Conception - Nov 2009]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:18:44 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Welcome to the Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception Thread!

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*Just a reminder to all: all LTers love seeing a fellow LTer achieve that longed-for BFP, and we all find hope in one of our own having success in this difficult journey. But please remember that there are those who cycled with you who may not have received good news at the end of their cycle. Please do not post baby/child/pg tickers or pg related signatures (eg blinking BFP icons) etc in this forum out of respect for them.*
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Welcome to the Long Term TTC &amp; Assisted Conception Thread!<br />
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To contact any of the above, please see <a href="http://bellybelly.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=56957" target="_blank">this</a> post.<br />
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<font size="2"><font color="blue"><b>Just a reminder to all: all LTers love seeing a fellow LTer achieve that longed-for BFP, and we all find hope in one of our own having success in this difficult journey. But please remember that there are those who cycled with you who may not have received good news at the end of their cycle. Please do not post baby/child/<acronym title="Pregnancy">pg</acronym> tickers or <acronym title="Pregnancy">pg</acronym> related signatures (eg blinking BFP icons) etc in this forum out of respect for them.</b></font></font><br />
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<b><font size="2"><font color="#0000ff">As it's easy to forget to remove your ticker, please be advised that we will remove it for you if it's posted in here.</font></font></b><br />
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The old thread is <a href="http://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums/long-term-ttc/114770-long-term-ttc-assisted-conception-oct-nov-2009-a-17.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</div>

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			<title>Nausea after EPU</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:27:54 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I was just wondering is the sedative they use to sedate you for epu likely to cause nausea i have a sensitivity to anesthetic and always get sick and throw up for hours afterwards i am not looking forward to it they even give me all the anti nausea drugs and they don't work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I was just wondering is the sedative they use to sedate you for epu likely to cause nausea i have a sensitivity to anesthetic and always get sick and throw up for hours afterwards i am not looking forward to it they even give me all the anti nausea drugs and they don't work.</div>

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			<title>embryo quality</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:31:27 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi there,
I had an ET yesterday. Of 13 eggs retrieved (I was slow to respond to stim), 4 fertilised, and 1 made it to 3 cells and was "good enough".  My regular FS didn't do the transfer, bc it was Sunday. Also, it was at a different venue.  The whole thing - well, it's kind of erased from my mind, because I was pretty disappointed and concerned.  Plus it was incredibly painful, and I've had IUI's in the past, so I thought I'd learnt to deal with the discomfort.
I'm not sure if this is wise, because I'm trying to stay positive, but trawling the internet is not helping.  Does anyone have any words of wisdome?
Is it sensible to give up hope? I haven't come across any success stories with 3 cell embryo, and I feel like the FS/embryologist were smiling at me, like you smile at someone with a terminal disease. They did say my egg quality might be the issue.  Should I demand more info?  I have endo on my left ovary.  I feel really un-assertive around doctors.
Any (positive) advice would be so appreciated?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi there,<br />
I had an ET yesterday. Of 13 eggs retrieved (I was slow to respond to stim), 4 fertilised, and 1 made it to 3 cells and was &quot;good enough&quot;.  My regular FS didn't do the transfer, bc it was Sunday. Also, it was at a different venue.  The whole thing - well, it's kind of erased from my mind, because I was pretty disappointed and concerned.  Plus it was incredibly painful, and I've had IUI's in the past, so I thought I'd learnt to deal with the discomfort.<br />
I'm not sure if this is wise, because I'm trying to stay positive, but trawling the internet is not helping.  Does anyone have any words of wisdome?<br />
Is it sensible to give up hope? I haven't come across any success stories with 3 cell embryo, and I feel like the FS/embryologist were smiling at me, like you smile at someone with a terminal disease. They did say my egg quality might be the issue.  Should I demand more info?  I have endo on my left ovary.  I feel really un-assertive around doctors.<br />
Any (positive) advice would be so appreciated?</div>

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			<title>Urgent question about pessary and ET..</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:54:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I am due to have ET tomorrow morning, but what i am unsure about is whether i should use the pessary tonight.  The lab called today and forgot to mention what I had to do and I cant remember from last year's cycle..  I know that tomorrow morning I shouldn't have one... that is the case isn't it?? but not sure about tonight?  Please can somebody shed some light! thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am due to have ET tomorrow morning, but what i am unsure about is whether i should use the pessary tonight.  The lab called today and forgot to mention what I had to do and I cant remember from last year's cycle..  I know that tomorrow morning I shouldn't have one... that is the case isn't it?? but not sure about tonight?  Please can somebody shed some light! thanks</div>

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			<title>TTC #2 - how long did you wait?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:46:09 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I was just wondering how long you waited between #1 and TTC with IVF your #2. We'd quite like to have a smallish age gap between our children and our chances of falling pg naturally are very slim. So how soon could I start IVF again (we don't have any frosties left)? When do you choose to start and why? 

Also, DS is only 2 months old, so we aren't thinking of starting in the immediate future! :lol:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I was just wondering how long you waited between #1 and TTC with IVF your #2. We'd quite like to have a smallish age gap between our children and our chances of falling <acronym title="Pregnancy">pg</acronym> naturally are very slim. So how soon could I start IVF again (we don't have any frosties left)? When do you choose to start and why? <br />
<br />
Also, <acronym title="(my) dear son">DS</acronym> is only 2 months old, so we aren't thinking of starting in the immediate future! :<acronym title="laughing out loud">lol</acronym>:</div>

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			<title>Follicle numbers...please help</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:36:04 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone

Hope you are all well, I was wondering if you could help with a few questions..this is my first IVF cycle so im not fully up to speed with everything yet!

Im currently taking 150 of Puregon and have just taken my 9th injection. I had a scan on Tuesday (after taking 5 injections) and was informed by my FS that I had 20 follicles and the largest being 11mm. I went back in again this morning for a further scan and he counted 18 follicles with the largest being 16-17mm. I then went to see the nurses for my OPU dates and she mentioned there were 14 follicles. I was really confused and when I questioned it she said that the 14 were 'dominant' follicles and all similar in size which was a good thing. She said the others might not grow further and end up viable. Does this mean that I do have 18-20 but he just didnt count the smaller ones? Are they meant to count every single one? My FS just looks at the biggest and measures its size.

So im wondering if 14 is a good number? I was really happy with 20, but now I feel a bit worried about having 14...even though the nurse said this was a good number im unsure...also is it possible that the others could catch up and be a decent size for OPU?

Also with the size of them being 16-17mm after 8 injections, is this ok? Would you expect them to be the 'right' size on Wednesday or Thursday next week when my OPU is scheduled?

Do you know 'typically' how many follicles contain an egg? should I be prepared that only a small number will?

There are so many hurdles in this process its really stressful!

I really appreciate anyones help who is kind enough to take time out to reply, like I said, im new to this and its very worrying when you dont know whats good or bad!

Thankyou and have a good day

Lindsay XXX]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi everyone<br />
<br />
Hope you are all well, I was wondering if you could help with a few questions..this is my first IVF cycle so im not fully up to speed with everything yet!<br />
<br />
Im currently taking 150 of Puregon and have just taken my 9th injection. I had a scan on Tuesday (after taking 5 injections) and was informed by my FS that I had 20 follicles and the largest being 11mm. I went back in again this morning for a further scan and he counted 18 follicles with the largest being 16-17mm. I then went to see the nurses for my OPU dates and she mentioned there were 14 follicles. I was really confused and when I questioned it she said that the 14 were 'dominant' follicles and all similar in size which was a good thing. She said the others might not grow further and end up viable. Does this mean that I do have 18-20 but he just didnt count the smaller ones? Are they meant to count every single one? My FS just looks at the biggest and measures its size.<br />
<br />
So im wondering if 14 is a good number? I was really happy with 20, but now I feel a bit worried about having 14...even though the nurse said this was a good number im unsure...also is it possible that the others could catch up and be a decent size for OPU?<br />
<br />
Also with the size of them being 16-17mm after 8 injections, is this ok? Would you expect them to be the 'right' size on Wednesday or Thursday next week when my OPU is scheduled?<br />
<br />
Do you know 'typically' how many follicles contain an egg? should I be prepared that only a small number will?<br />
<br />
There are so many hurdles in this process its really stressful!<br />
<br />
I really appreciate anyones help who is kind enough to take time out to reply, like I said, im new to this and its very worrying when you dont know whats good or bad!<br />
<br />
Thankyou and have a good day<br />
<br />
Lindsay XXX</div>

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			<dc:creator>Lindsayloo</dc:creator>
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			<title>LTTTC Two Week Wait - Nov to Dec</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:49:33 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Welcome to the LTTTC Two Week Wait. A place to share the TWW with other LTers.

*_Reminder_:

This thread is strictly for TWW chatter, and general posts regarding your cycles should stay in the general discussion threads. Please do not double post (one here and one in the chat threads) as they will be removed.*

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If you have any issues/problems with this forum feel free to email any of the above moderators who will be happy to assist you. All emails will be treated confidentially.

Good luck to everyone this month and wishing you all BFPs!!!

Your old thread is Here (http://forums.bellybelly.com.au/forums/long-term-ttc/114451-ltttc-two-week-wait-oct-nov.html)</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Welcome to the LTTTC Two Week Wait. A place to share the TWW with other LTers.<br />
<br />
<font color="Blue"><b><u>Reminder</u>:<br />
<br />
This thread is strictly for TWW chatter, and general posts regarding your cycles should stay in the general discussion threads. Please do not double post (one here and one in the chat threads) as they will be removed.</b></font><br />
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Your Moderating/Admin team for this forum are as follows<br />
Sarah_H Admin<br />
Rouge Admin<br />
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Lenny Moderator<br />
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To contact any of the above, please see <a href="http://bellybelly.com.au/forums/messages-bellybelly/56957-contacting-moderators-admins-please-read.html" target="_blank">this</a> post.<br />
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If you have any issues/problems with this forum feel free to email any of the above moderators who will be happy to assist you. All emails will be treated confidentially.<br />
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Good luck to everyone this month and wishing you all BFPs!!!<br />
<br />
Your old thread is <a href="http://forums.bellybelly.com.au/forums/long-term-ttc/114451-ltttc-two-week-wait-oct-nov.html" target="_blank">Here</a></div>

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			<dc:creator>Tanya</dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[HELP!  2 FS' with 2 different treatment plans]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:05:57 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hello Ladies!

I am currently in a state trying to decide which FS/IVF treatment cycle to go with.

We have seen 2 reputable FS' from 2 diff IVF clinics (SIVF & IVFA).

I am 27 & have PCOS and need ICSI to conceive due to DH MF infertility.

One doctor recommended the Antagonist cycle for me and can start me as early as this coming Monday.

The other doctor recommended Long Down Reg, and I can start that next Thursday.

When I asked both doctors why that particular treatment, both said because of my PCOS and to avoid OHSS.

Can anyone please give me any advice on what treatment cycle works better for PCOS patients, and which clinic they think I should go with.  DH and I need to make a decision by tomorrow.  Any success stories with either of these clinics/treatment cycles??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello Ladies!<br />
<br />
I am currently in a state trying to decide which FS/IVF treatment cycle to go with.<br />
<br />
We have seen 2 reputable FS' from 2 diff IVF clinics (SIVF &amp; IVFA).<br />
<br />
I am 27 &amp; have PCOS and need ICSI to conceive due to <acronym title="(my) dear husband">DH</acronym> MF infertility.<br />
<br />
One doctor recommended the Antagonist cycle for me and can start me as early as this coming Monday.<br />
<br />
The other doctor recommended Long Down Reg, and I can start that next Thursday.<br />
<br />
When I asked both doctors why that particular treatment, both said because of my PCOS and to avoid OHSS.<br />
<br />
Can anyone please give me any advice on what treatment cycle works better for PCOS patients, and which clinic they think I should go with.  <acronym title="(my) dear husband">DH</acronym> and I need to make a decision by tomorrow.  Any success stories with either of these clinics/treatment cycles??</div>

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			<dc:creator>nat-</dc:creator>
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			<title>tubal surgery</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:30:39 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Just wondering if anyone has any experiences of tubal surgery to unblock tubes blocked due to infection? I've heard if the damage is not too severe, tubal surgery is sometimes a better option than IVF?
Thanks for any advice]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Just wondering if anyone has any experiences of tubal surgery to unblock tubes blocked due to infection? I've heard if the damage is not too severe, tubal surgery is sometimes a better option than IVF?<br />
Thanks for any advice</div>

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			<dc:creator>lauren_s</dc:creator>
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			<title>About to start IVF</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:24:28 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone, thought I would pop in and introduce myself!
I am from Melbourne, I am 30 and my husband is 29, we have a three year old son concieved naturally (without trying)  and have been trying for number two for 18 months.  We had undergone all of the preliminary tests which haven't shown any reason for our difficulties and were referred to reproductive services at the Womens hospital (an affiliate of Melbourne IVF)
Today we had our first nurses appt as well as our appt with the accounts department, my head is spinning from all of the information!  Melbourne IVF also ran a second semen analysis on my husband and the nurse informed us it showed 92% abnormal morphology but said we would still go ahead with normal IVF as opposed to ICSI.  Does anyone know how bad that result is and how much it effects our chances of success? The nurse also asked if there was a reason we weren't starting with IUI - the doctor never mentioned this so now I am wondering if we are jumping the gun going straight to IVF?
I am doing a down reg cycle with gonal f and synarel, starting the first day of my next period in mid december.  I am so confused, I also suffer panic disorder and am on medication to control that, so am interested (and frightened) to see how this journey may effect that!  Anyway I am rambling that the confused goose I am today :p  Glad to be here!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi everyone, thought I would pop in and introduce myself!<br />
I am from Melbourne, I am 30 and my husband is 29, we have a three year old son concieved naturally (without trying)  and have been trying for number two for 18 months.  We had undergone all of the preliminary tests which haven't shown any reason for our difficulties and were referred to reproductive services at the Womens hospital (an affiliate of Melbourne IVF)<br />
Today we had our first nurses appt as well as our appt with the accounts department, my head is spinning from all of the information!  Melbourne IVF also ran a second semen analysis on my husband and the nurse informed us it showed 92% abnormal morphology but said we would still go ahead with normal IVF as opposed to ICSI.  Does anyone know how bad that result is and how much it effects our chances of success? The nurse also asked if there was a reason we weren't starting with IUI - the doctor never mentioned this so now I am wondering if we are jumping the gun going straight to IVF?<br />
I am doing a down reg cycle with gonal f and synarel, starting the first day of my next period in mid december.  I am so confused, I also suffer panic disorder and am on medication to control that, so am interested (and frightened) to see how this journey may effect that!  Anyway I am rambling that the confused goose I am today :p  Glad to be here!</div>

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			<title>Argh...</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:41:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[AF came today.

F*** F*** F***. I don't know why I even bother being positive or trying to convince myself that "this could be the month!" I just set myself up for total and utter devastation.

How does life go on??? Seriously??? I feel so desperately alone right now - EVERYONE around me is pregnant, or has just had a baby - and I am literally going insane! I don't know if I can even take this anymore!

I just spent 2 hours on the floor of my shower bawling my eyes out uncontrollably after I saw a picture on F****** facebook of a friend of mine - who accidentally got knocked up whilst travelling overseas - cuddling her little, beautiful, perfect baby boy.

We've been TTC since January 2006 - no success at all - now know DH has 2-4% morphology - so will most likely have most success with ICSI. We've had the pre-appointments - but I am so, so, so scared of actually going through with it... the money... the fear of it not being successful... the fear of wondering how the hell I will cope with the shots and hormones.... and I don't even want to dare think about how I'll cope emotionally with a BFN... or if it just doesn't stick...

How do you learn to cope? How do you learn to deal with your emotions? How do you SURVIVE?!?!?!

L x

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><acronym title="aunt flo (period/menstruation)">AF</acronym> came today.<br />
<br />
F*** F*** F***. I don't know why I even bother being positive or trying to convince myself that &quot;this could be the month!&quot; I just set myself up for total and utter devastation.<br />
<br />
How does life go on??? Seriously??? I feel so desperately alone right now - EVERYONE around me is pregnant, or has just had a baby - and I am literally going insane! I don't know if I can even take this anymore!<br />
<br />
I just spent 2 hours on the floor of my shower bawling my eyes out uncontrollably after I saw a picture on F****** facebook of a friend of mine - who accidentally got knocked up whilst travelling overseas - cuddling her little, beautiful, perfect baby boy.<br />
<br />
We've been TTC since January 2006 - no success at all - now know <acronym title="(my) dear husband">DH</acronym> has 2-4% morphology - so will most likely have most success with ICSI. We've had the pre-appointments - but I am so, so, so scared of actually going through with it... the money... the fear of it not being successful... the fear of wondering how the hell I will cope with the shots and hormones.... and I don't even want to dare think about how I'll cope emotionally with a BFN... or if it just doesn't stick...<br />
<br />
How do you learn to cope? How do you learn to deal with your emotions? How do you SURVIVE?!?!?!<br />
<br />
L x<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Didn't handle it very well...]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:33:46 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Us:   TTC for 3 1/2 years, 4 ICSI cycles (incl one double embyro transfer), 1 cancelled cycle due to embyro dying.

SIL and husband:  TTC for just over a year.  1st IVF cycle about 3 months ago

Since finding out they were TTC I have been dreading them getting pregnant before us.  How the hell would I handle that.  Then they did IVF and I was relieved when their first attempt was unsuccessful.

Well last night I felt like my world just caved in around me.  My husband answered the door and I hear them come in and say we have news, we're 4 1/2 weeks pregnant.   My heart was racing, as I heard them talk, I actually felt my chest seize, I think I was starting to have a panic attack. It's been on my mind, that it's a possibility they will conceive before us (especially considering they have unexplained infertility, no problems identified like we have).  I've thought about how I would make the effort to say congrats whilst I'm dying on the inside. Well I just didn't do it.  They came in after speaking to my hubby and said we got pregnant on our 2nd attempt.  I didn't say anything straight away.  and then I just blurted out I'm sorry, I can't congratulate you and then walked off to my bedroom to begin crying.  In hindsight I wish I just had've had the strength to be a better person but I didn't.  They left straight away and I bawled for about 1 hour and a half or more. 

So many emotions went through me but the biggest one I felt was anger. I had so much anger and rage inside me, if I'd been in the kitchen, I don't know how many plates etc I would have smashed.  Whilst bawling I said to my hubby that I want to punch something, this is so f*ing unfair.  My heart was breaking so much, I've cried heavily before because of our situation, but last night my chest felt heavy, I felt I was crying as hard as if someone had died.  The pain was just so much last night.  

I just feel like it's so unfair.  they got it on their 2nd go, within 3 months.  I resent them, to be honest I kind of despise them for IVF having worked for them and not us (and I know it's not rational and their fault I can't get pregnant).  I feel like it's my turn, I've gone through so much heartache and I'm not one bit closer, and yet here they are running to our front door to tell us that theirs worked. And there's another reason for my anger.  I felt it was insensitive. Did they think that we would be jumping up and down for joy with them?  They've been through it a bit, surely they could think how I might react? how I might feel to hear that it's worked for them, whilst it hasn't for us.  I wished they'd done it by phone so I could have time to digest it.  But then I don't think it would have been any better.  I'd still react the same way.  I wonder if I'm overreacting, but I've been thinking about it all day and I am p*ssed off with how they did it.  Not even saying anything like I know it might be hard to hear etc.  Just nothing. I said to my husband how could they be insensitive, can't they put themselves in my shoes.  I feel like them coming over was not so much gloating, but I don't know what the word is for it.  

During the middle of my bawling I said to hubby he doesn't understand, he doesn't feel it like I do, he hasn't suffered and cried like I have over all this (he doesn't talk about it much, I feel like I wear it all).  Then he got mad at me and we started arguing, and I felt so alone.  But then he started saying that he too is sensitive to all the people having babies, he wanted to punch the doctor and embyrologist every time they raved about our perfect embryo, yet only to have disappointment two weeks later. So I guess if there is a blessing in it, that's it.  He actually opened up to me and I didn't realise how much he was hurting too until last night.  

I've been thinking about it all day at work...how do I handle all the upcoming family events?  I have managed to avoid any pregnant person until now.  We have a family gathering on Dec 6, a SIL flying back from Melbourne. I'm sure the talk will be how exciting her pregnancy is.  How do I sit there and hear that and endure it when I'll be wishing it was me.  And then there's xmas.... I just don't think I can do it.

How do people do it? Have you had conflict with family members because of your infertility?  

Sorry, long post. I know I'm more a lurker than a poster.  thank you for reading.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Us:   TTC for 3 1/2 years, 4 ICSI cycles (incl one double embyro transfer), 1 cancelled cycle due to embyro dying.<br />
<br />
SIL and husband:  TTC for just over a year.  1st IVF cycle about 3 months ago<br />
<br />
Since finding out they were TTC I have been dreading them getting pregnant before us.  How the hell would I handle that.  Then they did IVF and I was relieved when their first attempt was unsuccessful.<br />
<br />
Well last night I felt like my world just caved in around me.  My husband answered the door and I hear them come in and say we have news, we're 4 1/2 weeks pregnant.   My heart was racing, as I heard them talk, I actually felt my chest seize, I think I was starting to have a panic attack. It's been on my mind, that it's a possibility they will conceive before us (especially considering they have unexplained infertility, no problems identified like we have).  I've thought about how I would make the effort to say congrats whilst I'm dying on the inside. Well I just didn't do it.  They came in after speaking to my hubby and said we got pregnant on our 2nd attempt.  I didn't say anything straight away.  and then I just blurted out I'm sorry, I can't congratulate you and then walked off to my bedroom to begin crying.  In hindsight I wish I just had've had the strength to be a better person but I didn't.  They left straight away and I bawled for about 1 hour and a half or more. <br />
<br />
So many emotions went through me but the biggest one I felt was anger. I had so much anger and rage inside me, if I'd been in the kitchen, I don't know how many plates etc I would have smashed.  Whilst bawling I said to my hubby that I want to punch something, this is so f*ing unfair.  My heart was breaking so much, I've cried heavily before because of our situation, but last night my chest felt heavy, I felt I was crying as hard as if someone had died.  The pain was just so much last night.  <br />
<br />
I just feel like it's so unfair.  they got it on their 2nd go, within 3 months.  I resent them, to be honest I kind of despise them for IVF having worked for them and not us (and I know it's not rational and their fault I can't get pregnant).  I feel like it's my turn, I've gone through so much heartache and I'm not one bit closer, and yet here they are running to our front door to tell us that theirs worked. And there's another reason for my anger.  I felt it was insensitive. Did they think that we would be jumping up and down for joy with them?  They've been through it a bit, surely they could think how I might react? how I might feel to hear that it's worked for them, whilst it hasn't for us.  I wished they'd done it by phone so I could have time to digest it.  But then I don't think it would have been any better.  I'd still react the same way.  I wonder if I'm overreacting, but I've been thinking about it all day and I am p*ssed off with how they did it.  Not even saying anything like I know it might be hard to hear etc.  Just nothing. I said to my husband how could they be insensitive, can't they put themselves in my shoes.  I feel like them coming over was not so much gloating, but I don't know what the word is for it.  <br />
<br />
During the middle of my bawling I said to hubby he doesn't understand, he doesn't feel it like I do, he hasn't suffered and cried like I have over all this (he doesn't talk about it much, I feel like I wear it all).  Then he got mad at me and we started arguing, and I felt so alone.  But then he started saying that he too is sensitive to all the people having babies, he wanted to punch the doctor and embyrologist every time they raved about our perfect embryo, yet only to have disappointment two weeks later. So I guess if there is a blessing in it, that's it.  He actually opened up to me and I didn't realise how much he was hurting too until last night.  <br />
<br />
I've been thinking about it all day at work...how do I handle all the upcoming family events?  I have managed to avoid any pregnant person until now.  We have a family gathering on Dec 6, a SIL flying back from Melbourne. I'm sure the talk will be how exciting her pregnancy is.  How do I sit there and hear that and endure it when I'll be wishing it was me.  And then there's xmas.... I just don't think I can do it.<br />
<br />
How do people do it? Have you had conflict with family members because of your infertility?  <br />
<br />
Sorry, long post. I know I'm more a lurker than a poster.  thank you for reading.</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Lap & Dye when do you get results?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:41:33 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I am having a lap and dye and hysterscope in 2weeks and was just wondering when the surgeon will give me the results? I am hoping the day of surgery but wasn't sure if I have to wait till my 6week post op appointment. I am having day surgery (hopefully). Do they come and see you between cases in day surgery or recovery or how can I expect to find out the results? Depending on the results of the surgery depends on when we start ttc again or start down the IVF road so I was really hoping not to need to wait 6weeks to find out the verdict.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am having a lap and dye and hysterscope in 2weeks and was just wondering when the surgeon will give me the results? I am hoping the day of surgery but wasn't sure if I have to wait till my 6week post op appointment. I am having day surgery (hopefully). Do they come and see you between cases in day surgery or recovery or how can I expect to find out the results? Depending on the results of the surgery depends on when we start ttc again or start down the IVF road so I was really hoping not to need to wait 6weeks to find out the verdict.</div>

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			<title>Hope after threshold pregs</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:15:40 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi Everyone
I have just joined this forum and thought i would quickly introduce myself, my name is lainy and DH and i have been TTC #1 since Jan 2007. I have PCOS and he has low numbers, motility etc so ICSI is our only chance.  We have so far had 4 transfers with the last 2 resulting in threshold pregnancies. I know that a few of you have also been through this but i was wondering how you stay positive and hopeful for continuing cycles? I guess i am just so scared that is going to happen again :(
And also if any of you have experienced success could you please share it with me.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi Everyone<br />
I have just joined this forum and thought i would quickly introduce myself, my name is lainy and <acronym title="(my) dear husband">DH</acronym> and i have been TTC #1 since Jan 2007. I have PCOS and he has low numbers, motility etc so ICSI is our only chance.  We have so far had 4 transfers with the last 2 resulting in threshold pregnancies. I know that a few of you have also been through this but i was wondering how you stay positive and hopeful for continuing cycles? I guess i am just so scared that is going to happen again :(<br />
And also if any of you have experienced success could you please share it with me.</div>

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			<title>Non-city patients doing IVF</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:44:16 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone,

I'm interested in hearing from anyone who lives in a regional area or country town and has to travel a long way to their IVF clinic. We're about to book in for our first cycle and live 5 hours from our clinic. Today I was told that unlike a city patient, my USs and BTs would not be included in my fee and I'd have to pay for them myself. I can't work out how this is fair - seems like it's favouring city patients or penalising country patients (whinge whinge, I know :p ). So I know this is a bit general, but I'd like to hear other people's experiences - do you drive/fly to appointments? How do you fit the travelling in around work? Does your clinic tailor things to you (ie, phone consults, mailing drugs)? Anything else I should know/consider? Thanks a lot ladies, I look forward to hearing from you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi everyone,<br />
<br />
I'm interested in hearing from anyone who lives in a regional area or country town and has to travel a long way to their IVF clinic. We're about to book in for our first cycle and live 5 hours from our clinic. Today I was told that unlike a city patient, my USs and BTs would not be included in my fee and I'd have to pay for them myself. I can't work out how this is fair - seems like it's favouring city patients or penalising country patients (whinge whinge, I know :p ). So I know this is a bit general, but I'd like to hear other people's experiences - do you drive/fly to appointments? How do you fit the travelling in around work? Does your clinic tailor things to you (ie, phone consults, mailing drugs)? Anything else I should know/consider? Thanks a lot ladies, I look forward to hearing from you.</div>

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			<title>Reminder about LT TTC Vent Forum</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:04:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi all,
Just a reminder to all BellyBelly members using the LT TTC and AC forums that we have a dedicated "punching-bag" forum if you need to vent about your TTC journey.
To join, you need 50+ posts - just submit a request for membership through your user control panel (http://forums.bellybelly.com.au/forums/profile.php?do=editusergroups).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><font color="Purple">Hi all,<br />
Just a reminder to all BellyBelly members using the LT TTC and AC forums that we have a dedicated &quot;punching-bag&quot; forum if you need to vent about your TTC journey.<br />
To join, you need 50+ posts - just submit a request for membership through your <a href="http://forums.bellybelly.com.au/forums/profile.php?do=editusergroups" target="_blank">user control panel</a>.</font></div>

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			<title>The next step...Graves Disease options</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:54:17 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi ladies, I just wanted to share where we are up to...well,  we finally got in to see the endocrinologist on Friday...she was lovely and we feel good being under her care. She gave us a plan going forward and managing the Graves Disease, fertility issues. She has put me on  PTU  medication to manage the thyroid function and I'll keep having constant blood tests to monitor etc. She said we should be able to resume trying early next year hopefully. That's good news. We'll try naturally a few months, then return to IVF Ithink.

The bad news that made us feel a bit stressed, was that she said my thyroid antibodies are very high, and they increase my miscarriage risk, even if my thyroid function is normal. She said there is nothing we can do about that. So I guess when I do fall pregnant again, either through a natural miracle, or IVF, we will just have to hope that it stays this time. I'll be having clexane injections for the antiphospholipid syndrome too...as well as the thyroid medication (which has a  very slight risk to the baby). So I just sohope itdoes work out. I can't imagine the pain of losing another baby.

Sometimes I find people are a bit dismissive of my fears and worry, which can be hard, but I think they just dont understand.
So that's the latest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi ladies, I just wanted to share where we are up to...well,  we finally got in to see the endocrinologist on Friday...she was lovely and we feel good being under her care. She gave us a plan going forward and managing the Graves Disease, fertility issues. She has put me on  PTU  medication to manage the thyroid function and I'll keep having constant blood tests to monitor etc. She said we should be able to resume trying early next year hopefully. That's good news. We'll try naturally a few months, then return to IVF Ithink.<br />
<br />
The bad news that made us feel a bit stressed, was that she said my thyroid antibodies are very high, and they increase my miscarriage risk, even if my thyroid function is normal. She said there is nothing we can do about that. So I guess when I do fall pregnant again, either through a natural miracle, or IVF, we will just have to hope that it stays this time. I'll be having clexane injections for the antiphospholipid syndrome too...as well as the thyroid medication (which has a  very slight risk to the baby). So I just sohope itdoes work out. I can't imagine the pain of losing another baby.<br />
<br />
Sometimes I find people are a bit dismissive of my fears and worry, which can be hard, but I think they just dont understand.<br />
So that's the latest.</div>

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			<title>LT-TTC 2 years + non motile sperm cells!!</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:19:04 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>newby needing some help please re- non motile or low sperm count!!
hi every one, i am a newby, thanks to google discovered this excellent site. Very pleased to see good people devoting their time in maintaining this site...  have also started a thread on TTC as well, and just realised it should have been here! sorry mods..

i am 38years of age and wife is the same age, we have 2 children but been trying for a 3rd for the past 5 years and had no joy!!!. Recently have had some test done and wifes in the clear , but i have been told after a siemen analysis that my sperm cells are non motile, ie cannot swim!! or struggle to climb up!!, thats how the doc put it !!!.

can anyone recommend or point me to the right direction for rectifieng low sperm count or curing non motile sperm!!!. ive been looking on google and theirs all sorts of herbs and pills out their , but not too keen to try them as some can do more damage than actually cure .
read a lot about MACA POWDER, wheat germ, pumpkin seeds, ZINC suplements and .  and other sort of stuff - has anyone on this site tried anything or can recommend anyhting please!!</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>newby needing some help please re- non motile or low sperm count!!<br />
hi every one, i am a newby, thanks to google discovered this excellent site. Very pleased to see good people devoting their time in maintaining this site...  have also started a thread on TTC as well, and just realised it should have been here! sorry mods..<br />
<br />
i am 38years of age and wife is the same age, we have 2 children but been trying for a 3rd for the past 5 years and had no joy!!!. Recently have had some test done and wifes in the clear , but i have been told after a siemen analysis that my sperm cells are non motile, ie cannot swim!! or struggle to climb up!!, thats how the doc put it !!!.<br />
<br />
can anyone recommend or point me to the right direction for rectifieng low sperm count or curing non motile sperm!!!. ive been looking on google and theirs all sorts of herbs and pills out their , but not too keen to try them as some can do more damage than actually cure .<br />
read a lot about MACA POWDER, wheat germ, pumpkin seeds, ZINC suplements and .  and other sort of stuff - has anyone on this site tried anything or can recommend anyhting please!!</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[LTTTC & Taking Clomid/Metformin 2009 #3]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:26:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[This thread is for those members that are LT Trying To Conceive with the assistance of Clomid and/or Metformin.
 
If there is anything you would like to discuss about the thread or have any problems then please contact one of the moderators. All emails/PM's are treated confidentiality.

*Just a reminder to all: all LTers love seeing a fellow LTer achieve that longed-for BFP, and we all find hope in one of our own having success in this difficult journey. But please remember that there are those who cycled with you who may not have received good news at the end of their cycle. Please do not post baby/child/pg tickers or pg related signatures (eg blinking BFP icons) etc in this forum out of respect for them.*
 
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			<title>IUI advice?????</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:55:46 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi, everyone.DP and i have just decided to give IUI another go since financially at the moment we cant afford to do ivf just yet.I'm going to see my gp monday to get a referal and just wondering if anyone can recommend a fertility specialist in brisbane (especially someone that has success with IUI)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi, everyone.DP and i have just decided to give IUI another go since financially at the moment we cant afford to do ivf just yet.I'm going to see my gp monday to get a referal and just wondering if anyone can recommend a fertility specialist in brisbane (especially someone that has success with IUI)</div>

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			<title>Keeping fertility help a secret?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:47:49 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi
I'm a first time poster
TCC for a year and a half, saw a FS, she gave us 2 months to do it ourselves, them she wants to try IUI. My mans count is low but not that low, I seem to be working okay.
My husband and I are willing to try anything we have to, BUT...
He doesn't want anyone to know what we are doing, and I truly mean no-one. No work friends no family, not even my best friend.
He says it is because if it doesn't work, he doesn't want people feeling 'sorry for us'.
I agreed at the time, but now that it looks like we need help, I think this is unfair on me. I'm not saying DH isn't supportive, -he's wonderful, it's just it's not the same as confiding to your Mum or best girlfriend, or someone who has been through it like some of my work friends.
I guess that is why I've joined, to spill and to see what others think, has anyone had the same thing with their partner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi<br />
I'm a first time poster<br />
TCC for a year and a half, saw a FS, she gave us 2 months to do it ourselves, them she wants to try IUI. My mans count is low but not that low, I seem to be working okay.<br />
My husband and I are willing to try anything we have to, BUT...<br />
He doesn't want anyone to know what we are doing, and I truly mean no-one. No work friends no family, not even my best friend.<br />
He says it is because if it doesn't work, he doesn't want people feeling 'sorry for us'.<br />
I agreed at the time, but now that it looks like we need help, I think this is unfair on me. I'm not saying <acronym title="(my) dear husband">DH</acronym> isn't supportive, -he's wonderful, it's just it's not the same as confiding to your Mum or best girlfriend, or someone who has been through it like some of my work friends.<br />
I guess that is why I've joined, to spill and to see what others think, has anyone had the same thing with their partner.</div>

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			<title>Sydney IVF Orange</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:20:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Just wondering if anyone has any experience with Sydney IVF Orange? This is the closest clinic to me but I don't know if its worth whilst shopping around some more. I'd prefer not to have to travel long distances as that means lots of stays overnight also. Just wondering if its reputation is on parr with elsewhere or if anyone could recommend going elsewhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Just wondering if anyone has any experience with Sydney IVF Orange? This is the closest clinic to me but I don't know if its worth whilst shopping around some more. I'd prefer not to have to travel long distances as that means lots of stays overnight also. Just wondering if its reputation is on parr with elsewhere or if anyone could recommend going elsewhere.</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[unexplained infertility & ivf]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:33:23 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi, I tried searching for answer to this question, but couldn't really get a definitive one.
I saw this really depressing piece in The Guardian saying we don't know "whether" IVf works for unexplained infertility (the box I'm in, with my partner, TTC nearly 3 years, both 32 yrs old, 3 unsuccessful IUI's, 6 months' clomid before that, and polypectomy last year, & 6 mths TCM with herbs/acupuncture, now on first stimulated IVF cycle). 
So yep, are IVF success rates for unexplained couples lower than for couples with a diagnosis?  Also, how many goes do you give it? I've heard 4, but I don't know if that's including possibly FETs or just fresh?
Any info people might have would be great!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi, I tried searching for answer to this question, but couldn't really get a definitive one.<br />
I saw this really depressing piece in The Guardian saying we don't know &quot;whether&quot; IVf works for unexplained infertility (the box I'm in, with my partner, TTC nearly 3 years, both 32 yrs old, 3 unsuccessful IUI's, 6 months' clomid before that, and polypectomy last year, &amp; 6 mths TCM with herbs/acupuncture, now on first stimulated IVF cycle). <br />
So yep, are IVF success rates for unexplained couples lower than for couples with a diagnosis?  Also, how many goes do you give it? I've heard 4, but I don't know if that's including possibly FETs or just fresh?<br />
Any info people might have would be great!</div>

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			<title>what do you give up???</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:51:32 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi girls,
2 questions really.  First is what do you give up when you're in a cycle and secondly what do you give up when you begin the 2ww and why?

I know there're common ones like alcohol, coffee, soft cheese but wondered what I might inadvertantly be eating/drinking that's risky.  I'm not completely strict with myself, I allow myself one coffee a day.  .  . maybe I shouldn't, but thanks in advance for any responses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi girls,<br />
2 questions really.  First is what do you give up when you're in a cycle and secondly what do you give up when you begin the 2ww and why?<br />
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I know there're common ones like alcohol, coffee, soft cheese but wondered what I might inadvertantly be eating/drinking that's risky.  I'm not completely strict with myself, I allow myself one coffee a day.  .  . maybe I shouldn't, but thanks in advance for any responses.</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Jim O'Hearn Melbourne Natural Treatment]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:29:11 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi All

Just wondering if anyone has been to see Jim O'Hearn in Melbourne for natural fertility treatment??

Thank Bree** :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi All<br />
<br />
Just wondering if anyone has been to see Jim O'Hearn in Melbourne for natural fertility treatment??<br />
<br />
Thank Bree** :)</div>

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			<title>Acupuncturist in Sydney area</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:17:05 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi ladies,

I have heard that acupuncture is a great complement to the IVF process and I was wondering if any of you would be able to help me in choosing an acupuncturist that specialises in fertility in Sydney.

I am currently looking into Point Specifics in Kellyville and the Oriental Medicine Clinic in Chatswood.

Can any of you share any advice or suggestions on the above, or anyone else they have had success with?  Thanks so much.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi ladies,<br />
<br />
I have heard that acupuncture is a great complement to the IVF process and I was wondering if any of you would be able to help me in choosing an acupuncturist that specialises in fertility in Sydney.<br />
<br />
I am currently looking into Point Specifics in Kellyville and the Oriental Medicine Clinic in Chatswood.<br />
<br />
Can any of you share any advice or suggestions on the above, or anyone else they have had success with?  Thanks so much.</div>

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			<title>The things people say...</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:16:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone, this is a bit of a vent really, but I thought I'd post it here, as some (or perhaps most) of you will be able to relate...

I am finding it really hard to try and be 'up' for other people. I feel as though I have to put a positive spin on our situation to make sure other people don't feel uncomfortable.
I have also noticed other people usually try and put a positive spin on it somehow, I think they do this with the best of intentions, to try and make me feel better, and also to try and make themselves feel less uncomfortable talking about something difficult. But I must say, sometimes all I want people to say to me is "oh, that's really hard, that must be tough" etc. Just plain understanding. 

instead I often get things like "oh well, onward and upward" "you just have to stay positive, it will happen", or "i'm sure you'll get there in the end, you are just having an adventure on the way" (some adventure); 
or, now that we have medical issues identified which have caused the miscarriages (but have not caused the difficulty getting pregnant...thats an issue with my tubes, which has not changed), I constantly get:
 "oh well, this is good, now you should be able to fall pregnant easily right" (well, no)... "or, this is great news, now you can proceed forward" (yes, it is good news having answers for sure, but sometimes it's hard always having to be upbeat about having another medical problem identified...things that affect my health, require medication and monitoring and which mean any future pregnancy will be high risk and need close care).
I always go along with the positive comment, as I feel I have to, and say something like "oh yes, of course, moving forward now! I'm sure our turn will come soon, laugh /smile". sigh.
I think I am just having a bad day and am at a hormonal time of the month, but I really am tired of having to put on a positive front for others, even though I know they usually mean well, or simply don't know what else to say. It's making me feel less and less like socialising in groups, because I find it hard work.

I also find on the subject of miscarriages, people seem to think I am 'recovered' now, like they are done and over with ...but they are not done and over with to me. The loss and grief is still there, it's just more manageable now.

Sorry for the long vent ladies. Does this get to other people sometimes too?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi everyone, this is a bit of a vent really, but I thought I'd post it here, as some (or perhaps most) of you will be able to relate...<br />
<br />
I am finding it really hard to try and be 'up' for other people. I feel as though I have to put a positive spin on our situation to make sure other people don't feel uncomfortable.<br />
I have also noticed other people usually try and put a positive spin on it somehow, I think they do this with the best of intentions, to try and make me feel better, and also to try and make themselves feel less uncomfortable talking about something difficult. But I must say, sometimes all I want people to say to me is &quot;oh, that's really hard, that must be tough&quot; etc. Just plain understanding. <br />
<br />
instead I often get things like &quot;oh well, onward and upward&quot; &quot;you just have to stay positive, it will happen&quot;, or &quot;i'm sure you'll get there in the end, you are just having an adventure on the way&quot; (some adventure); <br />
or, now that we have medical issues identified which have caused the miscarriages (but have not caused the difficulty getting pregnant...thats an issue with my tubes, which has not changed), I constantly get:<br />
 &quot;oh well, this is good, now you should be able to fall pregnant easily right&quot; (well, no)... &quot;or, this is great news, now you can proceed forward&quot; (yes, it is good news having answers for sure, but sometimes it's hard always having to be upbeat about having another medical problem identified...things that affect my health, require medication and monitoring and which mean any future pregnancy will be high risk and need close care).<br />
I always go along with the positive comment, as I feel I have to, and say something like &quot;oh yes, of course, moving forward now! I'm sure our turn will come soon, laugh /smile&quot;. sigh.<br />
I think I am just having a bad day and am at a hormonal time of the month, but I really am tired of having to put on a positive front for others, even though I know they usually mean well, or simply don't know what else to say. It's making me feel less and less like socialising in groups, because I find it hard work.<br />
<br />
I also find on the subject of miscarriages, people seem to think I am 'recovered' now, like they are done and over with ...but they are not done and over with to me. The loss and grief is still there, it's just more manageable now.<br />
<br />
Sorry for the long vent ladies. Does this get to other people sometimes too?</div>

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			<title>Oh no! - **BIG TMI**</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:59:25 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I have 1 friend who CONSTANTLY tells me that they tried for a year, and then she was told by a friend to raise her pelvis in the air for 10 minutes after DTD.  I'm getting really desperate lately, so tonight, after DTD, I got DH to help me put my legs up against the bedhead and put a couple of pillows under my bum.  Believe me, I may never get over the embarrassment :redface:
 
*****TMI*****
 
However, 15 minutes later - I wanted to make extra sure - I got up, and there's a puddle on my pillow!  :redface: :wall:  I don't understand how that would happen - has DH got gravity-defying swimmers?!
 
Has anyone else done this successfully?  OR, has anyone done this UNsuccessfully, so I don't feel like such a dork???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have 1 friend who CONSTANTLY tells me that they tried for a year, and then she was told by a friend to raise her pelvis in the air for 10 minutes after <acronym title="doing the deed (intercourse)">DTD</acronym>.  I'm getting really desperate lately, so tonight, after <acronym title="doing the deed (intercourse)">DTD</acronym>, I got <acronym title="(my) dear husband">DH</acronym> to help me put my legs up against the bedhead and put a couple of pillows under my bum.  Believe me, I may never get over the embarrassment :redface:<br />
 <br />
*****TMI*****<br />
 <br />
However, 15 minutes later - I wanted to make extra sure - I got up, and there's a puddle on my pillow!  :redface: :wall:  I don't understand how that would happen - has <acronym title="(my) dear husband">DH</acronym> got gravity-defying swimmers?!<br />
 <br />
Has anyone else done this successfully?  OR, has anyone done this UNsuccessfully, so I don't feel like such a dork???</div>

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