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Old December 17th, 2005, 09:30 PM
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Hi Blue - how are you ? you have been in my thoughts often.

My understanding (and after doing Nursing degree at uni) is that randomised trials and all 'statistics' are only as accurate as the figures supplied.

Blue - I like the advice you gave Sararms about changing clinic because they allegedly had a higher success rate. Depends how they present them to IVF'ers doesn't it

Sue - you are right too in telling her she has better odds whatever she does because youth is on her side.

Sadly - some scientists/Drs in all fields will go to any lengths to achieve the desired results on paper - look at the famous birth defects Doc.

For the sake of all IVFers I am glad there is independent research like Cochrane to keep the b^%tards honest. It sounds very reputable.

However , I think at the end of the day it doesn't matter how you get pregnant and we all have make our own mind on what is best for our personal situation. I am not sure where Sushee got her figures from

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... The chances of success with a Day 2 transfer are very respectable, at around 20%.

...that embryos that make it past the day 3 ‘hurdle’ will become pregnancies, the possibility of this becomes greater (at about 45-50%, I believe)
but I have heard and read similar on several US websites and bandied about AC forums over and over. This certainly influenced the decision to go to blasts. My Dh followed whatever I said. Also age - given that over 50% of my embryos could have probs developing.

I also knew our Frozen embryos didn't seem to make it thru thawing (many don't in any given situation the % is less )- and I personally couldn't imagine having a dozen spare embryos with repeat FET cycles of 1 or 2 cells.

It made sense to see if our embryos passed the 2 -3 day hurdle. I know we had 13 fertilised embryos (out of 17 eggs) on IVF #1 - day 1 - by day 2 (transfer) we were down to 8 embryos - where we transferred 2 @ 4 cells. They didn't offer day 3 at all and I was none the wiser - even about blasts - at this stage I blindly trusted the Drs.

My embryo survival percentages were average for my age but very low overall.Cycle #2 we had 2 good embryos out of 16 fertilised eggs.

I never asked the head scientist at what stage he (or the embryologist) could tell an embryo was a good egg or not ? I wish I had.

This guy had obviously been at Westmead a long time - his staff photo on the wall in waiting room showed a more youthful face than I saw in the transfer room.
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